Camionetta AS 42 Sahariana I, Sahara Truck - Scouting and Patrolling vehicle

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Grollo
view post Posted on 12/6/2007, 10:41




Sahariana

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One of the first examples of the Sahariana fitted with 'Libya' desert tyres. (Fiat)

In the 1930s the Italian Army in East and North Africa had used some high mobility vehicles armed with heavy machine guns, but the beginning of military operations in Libya against British forces in autumn of 1940 revealed the good performance of enemy wheeled weapon carriers, some of which were captured and utilized during the Italian counter attacks of 1941. The Italian Army captured a large number of British light trucks, some of which were later armed with Italian-made machine-guns and light guns. The Italians were so impressed with these that in 1942 several AS 37 Autocarro Sahariano (Sahara trucks) were modified for use as weapons carriers. These mainly unarmoured vehicles were used to support the armoured cars (available in insufficient quantity) for patrolling and scouting, especially against the British Long Range Desert Group.

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Side view shows the fuel cans and the support for a Solothurn 20mm antitank rifle.

In July 1942 the Indipendent Compagnie Camionettisti (weapon carriers companies) of the 10° Reggimento Arditi, an elite unit specialized in long range patrolling and offensive raids was formed. The Regio Esercito (Royal Army) requested some new high mobility armed vehicles from Italian industry and the SPA-Viberti Company proposed two solutions at the beginning of that year, the Camionetta AS 42 and the Camionetta AS 43. The first one was directly derived from the AB 41 armoured car and the second one from the AS 37 truck. The AS 42 or Camionetta Desertica Modello 42 was also known to the troops as Sahariana and produced from August 1942 onwards. It was narmoured, with its engine in the rear and a large space for the crew of five and weapons in the middle of the hull. The vehicle could carry four cans of water on the front and 20 gasoline cans on the sides plus ammunition and food for long-range operations. The armament was usually one to three 8mm Breda 37 machine guns, with either a 20mm Solothurn anti-tank rifle, 20mm Breda 35 anti-aircraft cannon or a 47/32 gun. The chassis and automotive parts were those of the AB 41 armoured car, but there was no rear-steered wheels or driving position. A long-range radio set was installed only on very few samples, used as command vehicle and these were armed only with one machine-gun. The open compartment's only overhead protection was a waterproof canvas sheet. In January 1943 the Camionetta II (Sahariana II or Metropolitana), was adopted which had two additional boxes in the rear and two, long side containers instead of 10 jerrycans. The sand-channels carried on both sides were no longer fitted.

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The performance was very good, but the vehicle was expensive and mechanically complicated. Little more than 80 of the AS 42s completed went to the Raggruppamento Sahariano, to the 10° Reggimento Arditi and to some training schools or minor units. Twenty six Sahariana I vehicles were used in Libya and Egypt from October 1942 and in Tunisia from January 1943, whereas 18 of the Sahariana II vehicles were used in Sicily in July and August 1943. Many AS 42s were destroyed by Allied bombing in the factories or during transit. A few of them fought against the German paratroopers in Rome on 9th and 10th September 1943, after the Italian-Allied Armistice. Six joined the 2. Fallschirmjäger Division on the Eastern Front, with Italian crews, and were all lost during the fighting in the winter of 1943-44. Ten remained in Rome with the PAI or Polizia Africa Italiana (Italian African Police), and a Sherman tank destroyed one when American troops entered the Italian capital city on 4th June 1944. Neither the Repubblica Sociale Italiana (Mussolini's Social Republic) nor the Germans used any of the AS 42 produced and after the War the surviving AS 42 Sahariana II were used by the Italian Police until the middle of the 1950s. These had a crew of six and were fitted with a radio set.

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Rome, 9th September 1943. Italian troops were ready to fight the Germans a few hours after the Italian Armistice with the Allies. (AUSSME)

Camouflage and markings
The first AS 42s produced were painted in the Italian yellow sand colour. Most of the Sahariana II were painted in the standard factory three-colour camouflage of medium green and red-brown patches on the base yellow sand used for Italian fighting vehicles from the Spring of 1943. After the War Italian Police vehicles were a shade of red. No units marking were used on these vehicles during the War, but all carried Italian licence number plates.

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One of the six Sahariana IIs manned by Italian crews serving with the recce battalion of the 2. Fallschirmjäger-Division, operating on the Eastern front from October 1943. (Cioci)

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Most of the vehicles were armed with a 20 mm Breda 35 cannon and a 8mm Breda 37 machine-gun. (AUSSME)

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Interior of the Sahariana. Note the supports for the machine guns.

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Sahariana II used by the PAI (Italian Africa Police) in Rome, in 1944.[/i]

Specifications:
# Designation: Camionetta AS 42 Sahariana I
# Manufacturer: SPA-Viberti
# Crew: 5
# Weight empty: 4,500 kg
# Combat weight: 6,000 kg
# Length: 5.62 metres
# Width: 2.26 metres
# Height: 1.80 metres
# Ground clearance: 0.35 metres
# Engine: SPA Abm 1, six-cylinder in line, petrol, 100 hp @ 2,700 rpm
# Transmission: Six forward speed, one reverse
# Max speed: 84 kph on road
# Range: 300 km on road, 1,100 km using the 20 reserve cans
# Gradient: 23°
# Fording height: 0.70 metres

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<i>Sahariana II used by the Italians was very effective against Soviet troops. (Cioci)


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One of the few samples armed with a 47/32mm gun, a powerful weapon for a scout carrier. (AUSSME)

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The Sahariana II was used by the Italian Police in the 1950s and was painted red. (Zuliani)

Edited by Grollo - 12/6/2007, 12:04
 
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Valerio_
view post Posted on 15/12/2007, 18:51




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Other photo.

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Sahariana AS-42 con cannone Breda AA/AT 20mm e Vickers K .303

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Sahariana com Rifle Solothurn de 20mm

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Vista posteriore.

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Edited by Valerio_ - 29/12/2007, 16:25
 
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jfp22
view post Posted on 17/4/2008, 06:29




QUOTE (Grollo @ 12/6/2007, 11:41)
Sahariana

The performance was very good, but the vehicle was expensive and mechanically complicated. Little more than 80 of the AS 42s completed went to the Raggruppamento Sahariano, to the 10° Reggimento Arditi and to some training schools or minor units. Twenty six Sahariana I vehicles were used in Libya and Egypt from October 1942 and in Tunisia from January 1943, whereas 18 of the Sahariana II vehicles were used in Sicily in July and August 1943. Many AS 42s were destroyed by Allied bombing in the factories or during transit. A few of them fought against the German paratroopers in Rome on 9th and 10th September 1943, after the Italian-Allied Armistice. Six joined the 2. Fallschirmjäger Division on the Eastern Front, with Italian crews, and were all lost during the fighting in the winter of 1943-44. Ten remained in Rome with the PAI or Polizia Africa Italiana (Italian African Police), and a Sherman tank destroyed one when American troops entered the Italian capital city on 4th June 1944. Neither the Repubblica Sociale Italiana (Mussolini's Social Republic) nor the Germans used any of the AS 42 produced and after the War the surviving AS 42 Sahariana II were used by the Italian Police until the middle of the 1950s. These had a crew of six and were fitted with a radio set.

Camouflage and markings
The first AS 42s produced were painted in the Italian yellow sand colour. Most of the Sahariana II were painted in the standard factory three-colour camouflage of medium green and red-brown patches on the base yellow sand used for Italian fighting vehicles from the Spring of 1943. After the War Italian Police vehicles were a shade of red. No units marking were used on these vehicles during the War, but all carried Italian licence number plates.

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One of the six Sahariana IIs manned by Italian crews serving with the recce battalion of the 2. Fallschirmjäger-Division, operating on the Eastern front from October 1943. (Cioci)

(IMG:http://www.militarymodelling.com/news/Imag...ahariana009.jpg)
Sahariana II used by the Italians was very effective against Soviet troops. (Cioci)

Hi

I wanted to do a saharianna II using by italian forces in russia
the kit i am going to se is the italeri like this one :
http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=mod...content&id=1861
http://www.missing-lynx.com/reviews/axis/i...reviewpc_1.html

and figures from dragon
http://www.dragonmodelsltd.com/html/6157.htm

my questions are :

- what are the differences with the Sahariana and the Sahariana II ?
- is there a kit tansformation ?
- how must i paint it on russian front ?
- wherre can i have more informations on this 6 Sahariana II on russian front ?
- and more ..... :)

- about the 2. Fallschirmjäger-Division, here what i know and some sites :

http://www.2ndfallschirmdv.com/
http://www.net4war.com/e-revue/dossiers/2g...-allemands1.htm
http://www.greendevils.com/

thanks a lot for your help
 
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Grollo
view post Posted on 22/5/2008, 09:07




QUOTE (jfp22 @ 17/4/2008, 07:29)
my questions are :

1- what are the differences with the Sahariana and the Sahariana II?
2- is there a kit tansformation ?
3- how must i paint it on russian front ?
4- wherre can i have more informations on this 6 Sahariana II on russian front ?

1- Main visible differences are:

- a single petrol tank on the upper raw of each side, instead of the 5 petrol upper tanks, while the 5 below are still there.- a new type of reinforced tyres

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Modelltrans news 2008
Direttamente dal forum di Minitracks.fr ecco interessanti novità italiane e non solo per il 2008:

les masters en attente de moulage :
- des roues correctes pour l'AB41 Italeri
- des conversions pour monter L'AB40 et l'AB43
- un set pour l'AS42 Italeri contenant : le canon anti char de 47 mm, le solothurn 20 mm, les pièces pour monter ce dernier canon séparement et les pièces pour convertir la saharian en metropolitana
Et ceci, déjà moulé :
- un type 5 CHI-RI japonais
- Un M4A2 (le précurseur du Stuart)
- un sherman HVSS israélien
- le R35 en quatre versions : totif et tardif et canons longs et courts. La version allemande semble aussi prévue.

Tout ça vient d'ici : www.network54.com/Forum/47210/thread/1199540669/Brand+new+from+Mod...

et le site de Modelltrans : www.modelltrans.de

3- I guess it should be an RSI camo version.
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QUOTE (Zimmerit Forum @ 14/4/2008, 09:29)
Un gruppo di Arditi del X e di "ragazzi" della divisione Giovani Fascisti, equipaggi di camionette Saharaiane AS42 del tipo Metropolitano decisero di continuare a combattere accanto ai Tedeschi e iniziarono a cercare un reparto combattente tedesco a cui aggregarsi già all'indomani dell'Armistizio. Raggiunta la 2nda Divisione Ramke ne entrarono a fare parte come gruppo esplorante al comando del capitano paris e, dopo un breve periodo di addestramento alle porte di Roma, ne seguirono le sorti, combattendo in Ucraina nell'inverno 1943 -1944 (copn uniformi tedesche e distintivi italiani), dove tutte le camionette andarono distrutte. Gli arditi proseguirono la guerra a fianco della divisione ed una parte combattà anche ad Arnhem. Da quanto raccontatomi da un reduce del Gruppo, uno di loro finì anche a Berlino nella Flak.

L'argoeemnto è trattato anche in articoli di Daniele Guglielmi su "Storia e Battaglie", nei libri del cavalier Arena e nel mio sui reparti corazzati RSI. Se ti interessano ho diverse fotografie del Gruppo in Ucraina e fuori Roma, oltre a parecchia documentazione (tra cui un resoconto di un'intervista fatta al succitato reduce).

Paolino
"ITERUM RUDIT LEO"



Edited by Grollo - 22/5/2008, 10:40
 
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